A lunch conversation with Frank Leonard led to a great opportunity to sit down with Frank and Off the Circle host, Douglas Karr. We speak about the evolution of the IT industry, its products and services. Throughout the conversation, we explore the complex relationship IT departments have with the businesses to which they belong. We also talk about the Indy CIO Network, a professional network for CIOs and senior IT leaders in the Indianapolis area.

Off the Circle features Indy-based entrepreneurs and business-people, their experience and expertise. Have some laughs and learn along the way on this episode of Off the Circle. Your hosts are Douglas Karr and Ryan Grimes. We’re sharing motivating stories, newly discovered businesses, exceptional leaders, and other topics associated with the great city of Indianapolis. Find more of their episodes here: https://www.offthecircle.com/